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So you’re welcome for my 2 comments getting you to rank highly for a keyword that you’d never otherwise have!

David G.

@Trevor, I haven’t watched the entire video so can’t comment. But am hoping there is some value for newbies, guess I need to go watch. I like Ryan a lot so am routing for him! But I have to test the activity thing.

@Affiliate, thanks!

I found your entry interesting thus I’ve added a Trackback to it on my weblog …

I can agree with most of what you’re saying, but you need CONTENT, LINKS, and TRAFFIC to rank a site well, and CONTENT is still number 1 in ranking your site for a particular keyword from what I’ve seen. I think Ryan Deiss’ “Holy Triad” is almost right – but he mingles updates in site content with inbound traffic in his “Activity” sector – two very different things to me!

Here’s an example where good content with few links and not a lot of traffic can still get your page ranked well: my “regular” business has evolved over the years into several different areas, and while website development and support for small businesses has become its primary focus, I’ve also worked in some niche areas involving security and encryption in IT products (especially networked devices).

If you do a Google search for ‘fips consultant’ or ‘common criteria consultant’, my page on Common Criteria Certification and FIPS 140-2 Validation comes up at or near the top of the rankings! It’s #1 for ‘fips consultant’ (out of 774K results), #2 for ‘fips 140-2 consultant,’ and holds #3 and #4 positions for ‘common criteria consultant.’ It has a PR of 2 and my domain has been active since 2005 – which doesn’t hurt, but is not playing a major role as I out-rank several large companies with higher PRs and older domains.

Why the high rankings? Google Webmaster Tools shows that I have NO inbound links to that page at all. (At one time I had 3, including one from a .EDU site, which DID help.) I do have over 1300 inbound links to my home page, but those are mostly from footer links that I put on the pages of my client websites (“Website produced by NetGreen Consulting, Inc.”) – not exactly what you’d call “quality” links. And for the past month, Analytics shows that my site has received 1600 “impressions” and just 22 clicks!

BUT – I have consciously gone back to my site every couple of weeks and changed a few words on the Home page and that FIPS/Common Criteria page so that it differs slightly from the previous version of the page. From my perspective, it’s been the focused CONTENT and updates to the page (part of Ryan’s “Activity” sector), not the links or traffic, that puts this page at the top of the SERPs for those keywords (albeit a small niche).

David G.

I can validate that back in 2005, google adword campaigns could boost PR to as much as 3 on the dynamic inner pages of a diamond site if the ad spend and ensuing traffic was high enough. However, I have no recent tests to that effect.

However, after watching the CherryPicker video from Ryan this morning, I was sorely disappointed.

I think i won’t spoil it for most of you but since you are all into seo in a big way, go look at how Ryan talks to the newbies who don’t know any better.

Look at the estimates being given for typical traffic in the first serp – 40% or more?

Yeah, it can happen, but not typically, and this goes pretty far against even what Google has publicly stated in the past.

Look closely at some of the cherry picked keyword related sites that he says one might be able to move downwards with ease. Some of them are PR5 sites with the significant domain trust of tens of thousands of links, sometimes over 40,000.

After listening to his high speed speech and watching him gloss over and give inaccurate information to newbies now I wonder about that pdf document and his new activity theory.

Truth and Integrity in advertising!

What happened to it?

@Bill, good content is link bait, so yes good,

@Trevor,yes it is all about PR, and PR is not the only ranking factor, ie as your example, just because a site has more PR, does not mean it will out rank.

@Geoey, yes, test, test, send me your results and I will publish!

@Steve, we will see lol

@Columbus, I am not such a believer in duplicate content being critical unless it is a total duplicate site! Now there you are in trouble!

@Marketing Forums, Yep, just read it today. I agree with everything Ryan has said pretty much, in fact I published a video on the click rate thing over two years ago called SEO vs. PPC

http://www.dorifriend.com/videos/SEO2/SEO2.html

so that is nothing new but is a great argument to get people looking at SEO

However, I have not tested the activity thing so I am still on the fence with that.

I had always considered site size and additions made to site “site activity” and believe that is still a factor, and it does make sense that visitor activity would be taken into account, but is Google really that smart yet???

And, I am still doing well with my focus on LINKING!

@Rick, what Marketing Forums said

@Motercycle, needs to be tested

@Trevor, Ryan is a BRILLANT marketer with the brains of Perry Belcher behind him that makes them incredibly powerful mind shifters! lol, How much you want to bet, they got a program on to sell on that new third piece “activity!”

@Rudy, the 301 redirect alone should NOT of over optimized you, but all of your linking may have as I see a TON of that happening. What I do is start linking to my site using the URL as anchor text and that usually brings it back.

@Reg, hmmm we are talking Page Rank, not Rankings.

@Kane, correct, only about PR.

@Peggy, I agree, but still need to test it.

@Sittercity, Oh that Ryan Diess again! lol

@Joshua, Thanks!!!

@Mark, If you are a local service, your best bet is to get into Google Maps!!!

@Jay, you will always have more links recognized by Yahoo then Google, but don’t stress about getting links “recognized” by Google, they recognize them if the site is in the index (and actually even when it isn’t lol) but they won’t tell you. Like mark, since you are local, your BEST bet is to get in Google Maps!

My Carpet Cleaning Las Vegas Ranks number 2 on Yahoo, but on page 11 on google.

I have noticed that I have many, many more links recognized by Yahoo than Google.

Should I start looking for links recognized by Google and utilize them for better Google ranking?

Thanks,
Jay